tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post6449104490623651713..comments2023-08-02T08:30:31.830-07:00Comments on In Search of Number Nine: RahXephon versus Evangelion: An AnalysisCameron Proberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00671562923306938919noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post-38810314268797407422010-12-27T20:45:38.076-08:002010-12-27T20:45:38.076-08:00I think what you're trying to say is that rahx...I think what you're trying to say is that rahxephon does is serve as more positive counterpart of evangelion, not a clone. Rahxephon is a reflection.<br /><br />Evangelion is a story that explains anti-socialistic behaviors and the darkest part of the human nature that hides within all of us.<br />However rahxephon is a story where it shows how even if we have differences just being here is the deepest connnection to feel alive and as a whole.<br /><br />Maybe people should watch evangelion then rahxephon. <br /><br />Watching evangelion makes someone cry and look at them self. Reflect the differences of others and hate them.<br />&Watching rahxephon recovers that was seen in evangelion.<br /><br />The creator of rahxephon most likely wanted to create a "what if" version of evangelion...and I appreciate this a lot more.<br /><br />% lets admit, the end of evangelion is pretty traumatic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post-81932840827353806012008-01-01T11:51:00.000-08:002008-01-01T11:51:00.000-08:00I can't see why RahXephon can't be an expression o...I can't see why RahXephon can't be an expression of "You are You" and a love story. In fact I would argue that only because RahXephon takes the stance of you are you can it be a love story. <BR/><BR/>Evangelion takes the stance that you can never truly know anyone and therefore all the characters shun or reject love. Because none of the characters are ever truly able to understand one another they are always isolated. <BR/><BR/>One of Rahxephon's main themes is connecting with with people despite the distance and learning to connect with people despite being different people. Only due to this major change in the general Evangelion model are we able to have the love story between Ayato and Haruka.<BR/><BR/>On a somewhat related side not I tend to find whether you prefer Evangelion or Rahxephon comes down to how much either show matches your personal philosophy. It seems like an obvious statement but it's not exactly obvious unless you think about it.Hisui and Narutakihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17056057831050282205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post-28861168180212602112007-12-05T22:03:00.000-08:002007-12-05T22:03:00.000-08:00Kauldron - I think it's because of the strength of...Kauldron - I think it's because of the strength of the series' that the argument never dies. And I think it can be both an existential examination of self and a beautiful love story. In fact, I'd almost say that beautiful love story is at the center of it's examination of self. But... I'd still agree that it's a great story, and just viewed as a great story is fine too.<BR/><BR/>Braincraft - Yeah, you could say that too. <BR/><BR/>Michael - Glad to see you over here man. Thanks for commenting. I agree that it's a beautiful love story.Cameron Proberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00671562923306938919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post-3662542530434894692007-12-05T19:29:00.000-08:002007-12-05T19:29:00.000-08:00I always say that I am at heart a romantic. I did ...I always say that I am at heart a romantic. I did not understand as well as did not care to Mayan mythology or the different philosophies pervading the show. <BR/><BR/>In the final analysis, it told a beautiful story of a timeless love, at least for me. <BR/><BR/>It's not a debate between Descartes' 'I am and it is only I who truly and certainly exist' or Marcel's 'To be a self is to be with others.' I didn't see it that way. <BR/><BR/>I just found that love is such a harrowing and yet beautiful feeling. <BR/><BR/>Great arguments, btw.<BR/><BR/>-Michael, animeotaku.animeblogger.netAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post-24684856034303466192007-12-05T14:59:00.000-08:002007-12-05T14:59:00.000-08:00Raxephon is Eva less most of the emo wank.Raxephon is Eva less most of the emo wank.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post-54528354401618226902007-12-05T12:31:00.000-08:002007-12-05T12:31:00.000-08:00i really hate this argument. it never ends. i wi...i really hate this argument. it never ends. i will defend the greatness of rahxephon till the day i die. years after seeing it its still on my top 5 anime and i still listen to the soundtrack on my way to work/class. i disagree with you guys on the fact that rahxephon is an existential analysis of self. i have always viewed it as a love story between ayato and haruka transcending time and space.<BR/><BR/>i saw eva first, but rahxephon stayed with me for a long, long time. Even the animation and sound of rahxephon still puts many new anime to shame.<BR/><BR/>and rahxephon still has one of the best endings i have ever come across in and fictional platform.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post-35327372787210189792007-12-05T10:10:00.000-08:002007-12-05T10:10:00.000-08:00Mike -I've always found that Eva's answer is proba...Mike -<BR/><BR/>I've always found that Eva's answer is probably closer to the truth. But on the other hand, I've always found that RahXephon told a better story. Where I think Eva failed was when Anno tried to make everyone like Shinji. As a point, I think it's interesting, but as a storytelling tactic, I think it really wasn't very good.<BR/><BR/>But I don't think anyone can deny Eva's effect on anime. I doubt that we'd have Lain or Texnolyze or even Haibane Renmei without Eva and probably Ghost in the Shell and Akira. <BR/><BR/>I do think that RahXephon approaches self in a more humanistic way. Saying that through the sum of our experiences and actions we reach self-actualization. (I think that's the whole thing with the world being tuned). <BR/><BR/>Although that wasn't quite what I got out of EoE. I got that once we rid ourselves of those perceptions that's the only way we can truly be understood. Although I do think your part is in Eva.Cameron Proberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00671562923306938919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post-4368616652552278872007-12-05T09:28:00.000-08:002007-12-05T09:28:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Cameron Proberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00671562923306938919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post-69355643970091977702007-12-05T09:09:00.000-08:002007-12-05T09:09:00.000-08:00RahXephon is definitely more polished and arguably...RahXephon is definitely more polished and arguably more coherent than Evangelion (though I think Eva, properly understood, is coherent enough). However, it definitely owes its thematic and stylistic existence to Eva, as does most every "arty" anime that has come out since then. That doesn't have to be a liability in the least; if, as you argue, RahXephon is in a way of <I>response</I> to Eva then I think it largely succeeds. <BR/><BR/>As for me, I find the raw emotionality and psychological insight of Eva appeals to me more. I agree with iknight that "You are you" is a rather unsatisfying conclusion, as opposed to the more realistic point that EoE makes, that we can't help but be with others even if they misunderstand and hurt us. Or, the Jungian point that "you are both you and what others see about you." <BR/><BR/>--Mike, <A HREF="http://www.animediet.net" REL="nofollow">Anime Diet</A>gendomikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10915326572063651507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post-53114354446582453722007-12-05T09:05:00.000-08:002007-12-05T09:05:00.000-08:00That is what I've thought. As far as the answer to...That is what I've thought. As far as the answer to RahXephon's question of self. But honestly I think it's a reaction to Anno's "you are both you and the sum of the perceptions of you." <BR/><BR/>In the end, what RahXephon proposes is that people's perceptions of you don't divide you from other people. And that through shared action/emotions you are united with people. I suppose I should have put that part in too. :)Cameron Proberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00671562923306938919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-895184527008014360.post-28905679212583844332007-12-05T08:55:00.000-08:002007-12-05T08:55:00.000-08:00I'm not convinced that the clone issue is really t...I'm not convinced that the clone issue is really the key one: <I>RahXephon</I> could be a clone of <I>Eva</I> and still be good, and it could be perfectly different and be awful. But your suggestion that they pose similar questions with different answers is plausible and well-argued. <BR/><BR/>To be honest though, if <I>RahXephon</I>'s answer is a tautology ('You are you') it's even more unsatisfying than <I>Eva</I>'s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com